tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post2708428025510083940..comments2023-10-30T11:07:06.790-04:00Comments on Remember: Save The Parks: The Work Begins!Andrew Kleinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03766250794520292541noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-35031742543701567062010-04-14T17:06:58.141-04:002010-04-14T17:06:58.141-04:00Anon 9:13,you appear to know nothing about environ...Anon 9:13,you appear to know nothing about environmentally correct management of a large park system. You should have some idea of the current poor state of Allentown's parks if you read this blog. Many of the people who are concerned about the state of the parks, and who comment on it here, are very active walkers, runners, fisherman or other wise daily park users. When you call them couch potatoes you show your great ignorance. " The parks will be fine." Ask Andrew how fine they are, and learn something about environmentally sound management before you open your mouth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-31132563508241983282010-04-13T22:23:48.163-04:002010-04-13T22:23:48.163-04:00Perhaps, if I performed the tango in a red dress, ...Perhaps, if I performed the tango in a red dress, my performance would have been much more impressive.Andrew Kleinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03766250794520292541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-3400110271992014522010-04-13T22:20:40.202-04:002010-04-13T22:20:40.202-04:00"underwhelming performance" - deemed by ..."underwhelming performance" - deemed by who? by the commenter? Did s/he perform to satisfaction at the meeting? love those Monday morning quarterbacks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-33559820981717301412010-04-13T21:13:58.828-04:002010-04-13T21:13:58.828-04:00The hysteria over cedar beach is ridiculous - give...The hysteria over cedar beach is ridiculous - give it a couple of years and see what happens. The parks are going to be fine. Clean ups and tours and community education are all good things. Don't let the vitriolic couch potatoes get you down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-26139547145137441922010-04-13T20:56:54.262-04:002010-04-13T20:56:54.262-04:00P.S. Save the Parks.P.S. Save the Parks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-82801098299902559102010-04-13T20:38:57.429-04:002010-04-13T20:38:57.429-04:00Ah, Andrew me boy, with you tis like the Springtim...Ah, Andrew me boy, with you tis like the Springtime; in like a lion, out like a lamb! {Underwhelming performance at the city <br /><br />council meeting. You'll no doubt get tougher as you get a little older.} Just for the record.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-48579699197190015292010-04-13T17:17:35.682-04:002010-04-13T17:17:35.682-04:00Anon 4:34
Your Cedar Beach opinion is fine, howev...Anon 4:34<br /><br />Your Cedar Beach opinion is fine, however, these two events I have posted today have nothing at all to do with Cedar Beach.<br /><br />These events are community building activities that not only help maintain our parks but help the neighborhoods they are in building stronger ties. <br /><br />If you want to see better conditions in our parks, please, come and help. Come to council meeting as future plans are discussed.<br /><br />Again, what has happened has happened. We are trying to change the future.<br /><br />For the record, I am working on a big project at Cedar beach and as soon as more details are figured out, when announced, I hope to see you there, whoever you are.Andrew Kleinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03766250794520292541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-81384885121391377702010-04-13T16:34:35.700-04:002010-04-13T16:34:35.700-04:00Whats vile is what was done to Cedar Creek Park.Whats vile is what was done to Cedar Creek Park.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-85266017184070604742010-04-13T15:04:36.099-04:002010-04-13T15:04:36.099-04:00It is astounding to me as a person of 26 years of ...It is astounding to me as a person of 26 years of age, that as initiatives are begun that folks on here, (anonymously) speak ill of them.<br /><br />First of all, I am glad that neighborhood groups have been doing them for years. If any of these groups do any this summer, I will be glad to advertise them on Remember. Until this very moment in time, I have never heard of such events and I absoultely seek them out.<br /><br />Andrew Kleiner, Friends of the Parks, The EAC, whoever else... Do you really think that any of us by making a statement (AS I HAVE OVER AND OVER AGAIN), are going to reverse the damage done? No. What has happened has happened.<br /><br />Now, on April 13th, with a city council ready to make public hearings before any new construction, (And if they dont follow through, well we cross that bridge...), and a Friends organization actively developing volunteer programs<br /><br />and me working my tail off to see these things done,<br /><br />the process of change, of betterment is beginning because all of us independently are working together to make a difference. <br /><br />More, and bigger plans are currently being worked out, but please be patient. <br /><br />In the meantime, I suggest you save the vile comments and use your energy to help out at these functions.Andrew Kleinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03766250794520292541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-11233617677598626672010-04-13T14:50:31.593-04:002010-04-13T14:50:31.593-04:00Crime Watch groups and others have been doing neig...Crime Watch groups and others have been doing neighborhood park clean-ups for years, decades even. For some years now, "Clean and Green" has been assisting these groups. No group need Friends of the Parks to do volunteer clean-ups. Who do you think you are kidding ? 17 park workers laid off, at 40 hours a week, that is 680 hours of professional man hours of work. You going to make that up with volunteers? You and Friends of the Park are not even a decent bandaid while the parks, as you have documented, bleed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-47116886879743092672010-04-13T11:09:10.213-04:002010-04-13T11:09:10.213-04:00Friends of the Parks does nice little projects whi...Friends of the Parks does nice little projects while Cedar Beach Park is raped. Friends of the Park fiddles while Rome burns. The Parks have never looked worse. Major issues go unaddrested, while Friends is MIA. The EAC, do they do anything? Agree with 9:39, these groups have no creditability what so ever. NONE. It's not about what people do or don't "like" Andrew. As you yourself have said again & again,it's about good stewardship and good management and what professionals have been saying for years about what's right for the parks and the streams. Good stewardship is not a popularity contest sir. Count me as one of many who see Friends of the Parks as a sad joke. With "Friends" like these..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-73574161732220307522010-04-13T09:46:57.489-04:002010-04-13T09:46:57.489-04:00Friends of The Parks is the organization that is m...Friends of The Parks is the organization that is making any and all possible volunteer activities like these, and future events possible. I can't speak for Friends, but I will tell you that the organization is working hard to better the future of the park system. <br /><br />I realize alot of my readers would have liked Friends to make a strong condemnation of the Cedar Beach project and whatever other issues they themselves don't like in the park system. <br /><br />As of this moment, Friends is the one organization working as hard as I am to raise awareness, start educational programs and begin the real work of volunteer stewardship.<br /><br />I am glad for their help.Andrew Kleinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03766250794520292541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-86565533891563133592010-04-13T09:39:06.775-04:002010-04-13T09:39:06.775-04:00I regret to say that for most park users I know, F...I regret to say that for most park users I know, Friends of the Parks has lost all creditability.annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-91126108551871355232010-04-13T08:58:04.730-04:002010-04-13T08:58:04.730-04:00Michael,
This is just the first two events of wha...Michael,<br /><br />This is just the first two events of what I hope to be many. I will be recapping my meeting with Greg very soon, I haven't yet because there are a few things I am waiting to see to fruition. <br /><br />Also, when you announce your clean up, I would be very glad to post it over here as well, we are all working together to get the right stuff done sir.<br /><br /><br />Katie,<br /><br />Nothing, everything is taken care of. Thanks though.Andrew Kleinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03766250794520292541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-39683269835724122032010-04-13T07:28:22.571-04:002010-04-13T07:28:22.571-04:00Well, I can be there on May 9th - what should I br...Well, I can be there on May 9th - what should I bring?Katie Beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15286622037274801817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-51269626207940512082010-04-13T05:02:50.732-04:002010-04-13T05:02:50.732-04:00andrew, previously you used the term "save t...andrew, previously you used the term "save the parks" in regard to removing invasive species, preventing stream erosion and opposing path paving. i commend you for litter cleanups, but will continue to question the stewardship of "Friends of the Parks" for their silence about cedar creek park and the new trail network plan. <br />again, i applaud your upcoming projects, but my computer will continue to speak out, especially against those groups which should be questioning the paving over of the parks. a visit yesterday to cedar park was very disappointing. last wednesday, as city council passed the trail network asphalt plan, i heard nothing from "Friends" or the EAC. <br /><br />a local political action committee has asked me to help design a clean up project for them in the park system, which i expect to announce next week. it also will be a simple litter cleanup, but will not be saving the parks. i've had no success in that department, nor claim to. how was your meeting with weitzel? does this post constitute your report on that meeting?michael molovinskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12581039755319742687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-72205648337430163362010-04-13T04:34:54.461-04:002010-04-13T04:34:54.461-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.michael molovinskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12581039755319742687noreply@blogger.com