tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post6284721856266992021..comments2023-10-30T11:07:06.790-04:00Comments on Remember: January Thaw 2: Cedar Beach Parkway (New Paving)Andrew Kleinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03766250794520292541noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-49989608345543662432010-02-02T10:42:42.778-05:002010-02-02T10:42:42.778-05:00Sarah, yes usability should be secondary to immedi...Sarah, yes usability should be secondary to immediate use after a weather event. If water remains on the surface for long it means one of several things: 1) The path is in a flood plain,already problematic. 2) The path is in a wetland area, already sensitive by definition. 3) Rain water is not entering the ground and is pooling because of soil impermeability or compacted soil structure. All three of these situations add to runoff,increased flooding and erosion of stream banks. All of this leads to degradation of Allentown's source water. All the professionals involved must know this. If they don't, they are not qualified for their jobs. This includes city employees, consultants and funders. The Wildlands Conservancy, to name one group contracted by the city surely has an obligation to speak up. Some times Mother Nature is telling us, if we listen, please stay out of this area at this time. What good is usability if we degrade our wonderful and sensitive park land?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-31673164303512004292010-01-26T22:17:24.740-05:002010-01-26T22:17:24.740-05:00"all paths in all the remaining parks will ev..."all paths in all the remaining parks will eventually be paved to accommodate the bicycle riding lobby". Please explain what other parks are not paved already( besides the obvious wrong doing at the Rose Garden) which the "bicycle riding lobby" was against.dirtyapehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175820615683675467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-14665618090203707732010-01-26T08:55:41.775-05:002010-01-26T08:55:41.775-05:00i should clarify that i believe the unpaved sectio...i should clarify that i believe the unpaved sections of the bridle path in lehigh parkway will remain unpaved to accommodate the boots and saddle riding club. paved surface is very hard on the horses.<br /><br />all paths in all the remaining parks will eventually be paved to accommodate the bicycle riding lobbymichael molovinskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12581039755319742687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-89067708849458961362010-01-26T08:46:36.243-05:002010-01-26T08:46:36.243-05:00I guess this may be an unpopular opinion, but alth...I guess this may be an unpopular opinion, but although immediate logic says "don't pave in a flood zone" I can see several benefits to paved paths in the flood plane at Cedar. <br /><br />1. Any non-paved surface contributes to the sedimentation problem after floods. The riparian buffer can mitigate this problem, but you still don't want the riparian buffer being flooded by gravel or dirt every time the creek floods. By having a paved surface, and keeping the gravel surface upstream of the paved trail, the sedimentation will be reduced.<br /><br />2. Useability should generally be secondary to environmental concerns, but a paved trail is useable basically immediately after the flood waters recede, whereas unpaved trails can be unuseable for days after the rain. As someone who actually does try to walk in the park every day, this is a big plus to me, and I'm sure to many other park users.<br /><br />just my opinion.Sarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5828470450506905015.post-56361819771870873402010-01-26T05:51:19.715-05:002010-01-26T05:51:19.715-05:00andrew, as you think about your post for tomorrow...andrew, as you think about your post for tomorrow, and realize all the paving going into cedar parkway, despite adding hard surface to an obvious floodplain, reflect on the comments stated at the trail-network meeting. "there has been no final decision of whether the paths will be paved, public input will be sought." as one who attended no less than 5 council meetings on cedar parkway, i can tell you public input means jack to this administration. anybody who thinks all the paths in all the parks will not eventually be paved and widened is being less than realistically honest.michael molovinskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12581039755319742687noreply@blogger.com